So we have heard about the best and worst places that people have traveled. What about the scariest countries?
To keep it interesting (and to appease the anal people on the forum), I would like to suggest a few categories:
- Most conducive to being shot
- Easiest place to be mugged
- Most terrorists
- Most openly corrupt
My votes:
- Iraq
- USA
- USA (bombed / invaded 60+ countries in 60 years. Even Al Queada struggles to keep up)
- Vietnam
triston
Tue, 2007-07-10 10:41
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Scariest place
At night in a tent with food inside anywhere in the East or South African bush with a giant bushpig or carnivore sniffing aroundoutside.
Colon in Panama at night. Muggers in the shadows
Washington DC crack heads near greyhound bus station
Some places in Northern Myanmar no electricity pitch black and stoned 15-year old kids with AK-47S pointing at you
Southern Iraq and Baghdad
ocdaf
Tue, 2007-07-10 12:33
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Scariest Places
I have been to quite a few, so called dangerous places, but the one place the hackles were on the back of my neck was the Platzpit(needle park) in Zurich. People Thousands of drug taking, syringes and needles, shooting up right next to you.
The only other times I've been really scared. Port Authority Bus terminal New York City at 4am. Arriving at Johannesburg Central Bus depot at night(Life and death stuff).
There seems to a theme that Bus stations in all major cities are not the best places to be, but if your travelling on a budget, it is inevitable you'll end up at one.
I was in Turin in the summer of 1985 after the Heisel stadium disaster and stupidly told a local I was from LIverpool. We were chased into a field and a friend of mine was hospitalised.
robpol579
Tue, 2007-07-10 15:00
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What about most conducive to
What about most conducive to being eaten? I'm not easily scared but it certainly put the wind up me when I went looking for tigers on foot in Royal Chitwan National Park, Nepal and found them. The 5'2' guide with a twig for protection didn't increase my confidence, especially when he revealed his sister had been eaten by a tiger! It was a truly stunning place and a fantastic experience but it felt great to get out of there.
Agree with Port Authority Bus Terminal, NY in the early hours. Think Star Wars bar...
Crow
Wed, 2007-07-11 18:08
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Rather be scared by an animal than a human...
The Philippines in 1985 right before a revolution... everyone had automatic weapons and it felt like the shooting was going to start at any moment...
Kano, Nigeria coming back drunk from a bar on a pitch black street, hearing voices following you, your boyfriend giving you both money belts and telling you to run like hell if you're attacked and he would fend them off....
Camping in east Africa, on guard duty, seeing eyes glow in the darkness, hearing grunting, growling, snuffling noises from just outside the circle of firelight, remembering reading about how stealthy leopards are when hunting at night, climbing to the top of the truck for safety and realizing it wouldn't do a snippet of good... but still one of the greatest moments of being in east Africa and would be right back there in second if I could...
Flying Garuda Airlines (Indonesia)...
erik99
Fri, 2007-07-13 05:05
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scariest experience
Well, it was pretty scary at the time. We were in China, and had gone to Cheng De. We went out in the evening to look round the market, and found a department store. It was fascinating, and we spent a long time in there. Unfortunately, when we came out it was by a different door to the one we had gone in. We thought we were going in the right direction, but got further and further away from base. We didn't speak any Chinese (apart from Hello and Thank you, which didn't help) and couldn't find anyone who spoke English. We had also neglected the Golden Rule - 'never go anywhere without the name of your hotel written in Chinese.' It got darker and darker, and it started to pour with rain. In desperation I went into a shop, begged a piece of paper and a pencil, and drew a sketch of the surroundings of our hotel - a railway bridge, clock tower, etc. The shopkeeper indicated that she recognised this (hooray!) and wrote a number, pointing outside the shop, and I gathered this was a bus route. We waited in the rain and after a while a minibus with the appropriate number appeared. I showed the driver my soggy piece of rice-paper with my drawing on, and he nodded and smiled. I paid the fare and hoped for the best. After a long drive round dingy, wet back streets, the driver stopped the bus and indicated we should get off. I looked round sceptically, seeing nothing that I recognised. The driver pointed round the corner, and there was the clock tower of my sketch! I could have kissed him. We laugh about it now, but scary? At the time, you bet!
panorama
Sun, 2007-07-22 09:28
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Avoid Nigeria
I have traveled in El Salvador and Guatamala during civil wars, been in some scary bus terminals ( New york, Dakar) , been told I would have drugs planted on me if I didn't pay a bribe (morroco) and even had military escorts on some journeys. But the most terrifying place, hands down, is Nigeria. Lagos, Kano...any city there. One guy got his arm cut off by machete, as people were going for his rings and watch. Many people just dissappear, no ransom or anything. You never know who to trust. This place is VERY scary
porcupine
Sun, 2007-07-22 16:49
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You aint seen nothing yet.....
Tigers, kids with AK-47's, military coups. Try Newcastle on a Saturday night, even the birds wanna kick your head in!!!
panorama
Tue, 2007-07-24 03:34
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Newcastle
sounds like a joyous place
Hempsci
Thu, 2007-07-26 09:41
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REAL SCARY
I have been to Morocco several times, and had tough times, but hell they are poor and want your bucks, hard to blame them, they are poor. I have been to Afghanistan but it was a long time ago and I had a great time. To tell the truth not much has happend to me traveling that I can call real bad, stolen money yes, ruined life, not even close. I hitched-hiked across N Africa and Europe and Asia with my wife 35 years ago and we had mostly great times, like on top of big trucks in India, with the drivers willing to share meals etc.
The only country I am scared to visit is the USA, because over half of the people believe that Irak was involved with 9/11 and continue to support a coup d'etat by BUSH and crew who have traded our American freedoms and the bill of rights for an illusion to keep us all safe from terrorism.
For over half of the American people to believe the lies and have the so called journalists to accept the lies without any questions show us all what things have come to.
When I travel in the USA I for one am tired of having my suitcase locks broken into by the TSA in the name of safety, what a joke. The USA used to be considered a bastion of freedom and democracy, by most people in the world, but I don't think you want to ask or know what the world thinks of America today, many consider us equal to Al-Qaeda in the threat to peace around the world.
What happened to America? Do we really want to be dragged down to the level of terrorist to preserve our way of life even if doing so shatters the reasons that made America different and special in the world?
I have not been back to the states in a few years, I have no plans to visit ever again, unless the government changes priorities in a radical way, like supporting personal freedoms. America has forgotten what is important and traded it for an illusion.
panorama
Thu, 2007-07-26 12:06
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yeah, amerika sucks ...yes
but that was a bit of preachy rhetoric, don't you think? Everyone is aware of the fact that bush stole an election, duped the people and has eroded civil rights. Everyone knows that the USA faired better when Clinton was in office. Everyone can see whats happining, aside from a small percentage of americans. Even the right wingers are slowly coming around though..Times are a changing, the republicans dont stand a chance at the next election, the house of cards is falling down. Throughout history every nation has had it's share of really, really bad leaders, and they always fall eventrually
jb69
Thu, 2007-08-02 15:33
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My scariest is not
Well, here's my bit ...
- Most conducive to being shot
Has to be South Africa - I was dragged off my bike in the middle of the day in Cape Town at gunpoint by a gang of seven not very diplomatic blokes. They got my backpack which had several pairs of shorts / t-shirts etc. as I was cycling over to Stellenbosch to visit a friend. No matter what you hear about SA, I was mightily impressed by the reaction of ordinary South Africans who came to my rescue in droves and the police who got them but alas ... not my shorts and t-shirts etc. Also, Palestine ... I was there recently when several hundred Palestinians appeared on the streets and started firing off AK47s into the air - the bullets have got to drop somewhere. This happened again the next day.
- Easiest place to be mugged
Liverpool: I was born there and it is so common - I've only been hit once but know too many people who have also been done too. But it is not the easiest, somewhere like Africa or Asia or Latin America has to be the easiest just because of colour of skin (and the bloody big backpack we carry) - I have just passed through Burundi and was the only white face on the street but nobody really even stared very much, so that throws that theory up in flames.
- Most terrorists
Got to be the current US government ... the Clinton admin wasn't too bad ... before that Bush Senior administration ... before that Reagan ... Carter wasn't too bad ... Ford wasn't there long enough ... Nixon ... Johnson ... just a question of which one was the biggest terrorist and had the most terrorists in their support team? I personally have an intense dislike for Paul Wolfowitz, if ever a more despicable man (Margaret Thatcher was a woman) was put on the planet ... yes, I know people like Saddam, Pol Pot, Hitler existed but none of these people ever really tried to mask their intentions the way the Americans do.
- Most openly corrupt
Liverpool City Council under Derek Hatton, only joking! Probably take your pick of African countries, depending on your experience. I worked in Mozambique a few years back and as a keen cyclist I took my bike with me. In Moz, everybody needs to pay about $5 a year to register their bikes (you do get stopped by police and asked for your bike license and happily fined without a receipt if you are not carrying it) so when I went along to pay for a second one as I'd lost the first one I showed the guy at the municipality my receipt for the previous one ... he did the paperwork, wrote down the equivalent of $5, gave me a receipt and then asked me for $10! I kid you not!!
JB
UncleTravellingStu
Wed, 2009-12-30 16:58
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Real forum chat
Hi All
Any comments on this one?
My scariest experience was getting lost at sunset in the old town of Fez, Morocco.
Thousands of people harrassing you to buy things, no streetsigns, very crowded, and because the old town is in a valley / depression, you have no way of knowing where you are in the city as you cannot see any familiar sights.
Anyone else had this problem? It was hell on earth!